Constitutional court case

[oldbootzz]

i second that. thank you !

[bigvalboski]

Ok, well as you all know i sent through my application and they received in on 2nd October 2009. Speed services TC084545778ZA tracking number.

The government did not respond or challenge any of my facts, and the proedure is that the Con Court was supposed to put the case in front of the Chief Justice, in line with the rules of the court.

Of course, this has not happened. The Constitutional court has instead decided to violate the constitution itself.
After they received the case documents, there has been a complete silence from them, and the government too. Even the media wont (the propaganda arm of government) will not bring up the issue.

they are ignoring the issue, hoping it will go away.

Every day i email the Registrar of the Court, but they just ignore it.They refuse to respond.

If you would like to give them some assistance, you too can e mail the court and media and ask them whats happening with the 'Prohibition of Cannabis' case.
director@concourt.org.za
registrar@concourt.org.za
cases@concourt.org.za

[oldbootzz]

i know its a bit late but here is a list of medical information relating to cannabis and all the diseases and disorders it can help with.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php? ... ost2556045

thank you granny !

[bigvalboski]

Reply from the court.

They require 25 copies of the application
An electronic version of the application in word format
Proof of service on the Government
Not sure how 70% of our population living below the bread line could ever get access to the court if you need 25 copies and computers but thats besides the point.

[Medicine Man]

An electronic version of the application in word format

I thought it was now official government policy to use open document formats. South Africa was one of the complainants that tried to block acceptance of Microsoft's not so open DOCX format. The ODF format used by software like OpenOffice is now supposed to be the standard.

The reason: no member of the public should be forced to use expensive proprietary software to create or access publicly available government documents.

Of course the legal system is the most resistant to change part of our government. Law firms are also one of the biggest users of pirate copies of Microsoft Office even though OpenOffice is free.

See HANDBOOK ON MINIMUM INFORMATION INTEROPERABILITY STANDARDS (MIOS) produced by the South African government.

[SativaReaper]

Good day. I was threatened, rather rudely I thought, by some automated software no doubt, about me ignoring a previous warning to contribute to the forum or risk having my account deleted. I find that quite offensive and in light of what this forum is all about completely at odds with the culture of resistance and activism. Please can the forum operators look into that. Just because one does not log in and make a comment does not mean one is not contributing to this forum. Merely reading it is a great contribution in my mind.

Anyway, so have the 25 copies been submitted, and the close non-standard Word document sent and the other conditions been met? We finished the 1st month of 2010 and no update has been forth coming.

Now at least I can rest easy now that I have made my physical contributiion, and those nightmares of having my account deleted should disappear.

Sativa Reaper

[plong]

What is the latest news on this thread/case?
This guy who sometimes works for me was arrested in December for posession and spent 17 days in Pollsmoor prison before het got a laywer to bail him out. He must now appear in court during the second week of March 2010.
This guy is a REAL Rastafarian... walks barefoot, does not touch alcohol or meat,etc. etc. Unfortunately he had a LOT of Swazi (couple of parcels) with him. He won't touch any chemical stuff or hurt a fly, so why lock him up for 17 days?
What is the legal status of weed for medical use in South Africa? If this is discussed somewhere in the forums, a link would be appreciated. Well, any advice / help would be appreciated.

[bigvalboski]

RED ALERT UPDATE --- CORRUPTION OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL COURT.

Basically, i re-sent the application again. They are not allowed to ask for what they had asked for (25 copies etc) and i pointed this out again and complained that it still did not have a case number and asked for clarity on the reasons why Ms Stander (the registrar/clerk) had ignored my application for over 2 and a half months.

This time at least i received a case number, but basically, Ms Stander, the clerk of the court ,has refused to process it on her own personal grounds and beliefs. She is personally against cannabis and so she said she will not process the application. her excuse is that no citizen can make a direct application unless a non-direct application was received first. Thats her logic she is using to 'doublethink' us, even though the courts webpage states that the court can be a court of first and last instance, as long as that is stated on the application with a motivation to the CHIEF JUSTICE AND NOT THE REGISTRAR. (which it had of course). So you are not allowed to do a direct application because you need to do a non-direct application first, which would then make a direct application impossible because you have already done a non-direct application which would be held up in the non-direct court system forever and never heard. Classic doublethink...but still illegal.

She was meant to place my application before the Chief Justice in October 2009 according to her job description and rules of the court, as only the Chief Justice may give directions for the following procedures that are required. But because the government failed to oppose the application, it was meant to go ahead and be heard. Thats the rule.

This is illegal and corrupt, and so i need everyone's help here.
Ms Stander had no legal authority to ignore my urgent application for over 2 and a half months. She has circumvented the rules of the court.
I need you guys to e-mail the media, the Law Society of SA, and the court and ask the following. You can adjust it a little, but as long as it contains the same core message that a citizen (no matter who it is) must have access to a human rights court and the riegistrar had no rights to ignore a citizens application, because if not, that means we are living under tyranny.

Will the Director of the court please explain to us and the press the following regarding Case no CCT 02/10 submitted on October 2nd, 2009, and ignored by the Registrar until January 2010.

1) Under what authority did Ms Stander (a clerk with no legal authority to judge anything) act to IGNORE an URGENT application to the Constitutional court for over 2 and a half months, ignore all communications and STILL not process it in line with the rules of the court? That is corruption as her actions ONLY benefited the Government (the respondent) who had actually failed to oppose the application.

2) International, constitutional and SA law, and the rules of the constitutional court (read Rule 18) state that a citizen may bring a direct application to the court, and that ONLY the Chief Justice will determine whether the direct application will be accepted. JUSTIN BALLOT MOTIVATED THIS EXCEPTIONAL APPLICATION TO THE CHIEF JUSTICE WITH 41 UNANSWERED VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS LAWS. He then received a fax from Ms Stander stating on official stamped Constitutional court paper, signed by her, that NO CITIZEN MAY EVER MAKE A DIRECT APPLICATION TO THE COURT AS ALL APPLICATIONS MUST BE HEARD BY A LOWER (NON-DIRECT) COURT FIRST. URGENT AND DIRECT APPLICATIONS ARE NOT PLACED BEFORE THE CHIEF JUSTICE BUT PRE-JUDGEMENT BY Ms STANDER INSTEAD, (a clerk with no legal authority to judge anything). He also has an e-mail from her stating the same thing.
Since when did Ms Stander, a clerk with no legal authority to judge anything, get the authority to over-ride international, constitutional and SA law, as well as the rules of the court, by preventing citizens from having direct access to the court BASED ON HER PERSONAL OPINION? That is not her call. That is called corruption. (If 41 scientifically proven violations of unanswered human rights does not qualify for direct access, then what does?)

3) The Chief Justice is trained in issuing justice. That is his job. The registrar is just a clerk with no legal authority to judge anything, her job is to file things and do as she is instructed in line with Rule 4. NO WHERE does it say that Ms Stander is the cornerstone! At what point did Ms Stander get the authority to decide and PRE-JUDGE direct applications and over-rule the Chief Justice and rules of the court? She is paid by the respondent, and has protected the respondent over and above human rights or citizens interests. Thats called a conflict of interest and is another form of corruption. (What would prevent a totally corrupt government from saying the following to prevent themselves being investigated? "No Christmas bonus if you process the application in line with your job and smallest salary increment next year Ms Stander, or immunity from being fired given by the respondent, her boss, the government, and you will get HUGE Christmas bonus/incentive paid by tax-payers, and the biggest increment in pay next year and every year that we can offer for protecting us from citizens and allowing us the government, your boss to continue with all our human rights violations".) BLATENT CORRUPTION to the point of treason some would say.

4) Justin Ballot sent a fax Monday 11th JANUARY, 2010 requesting an appointment with the Chief Justice to discuss the application in line with YOUR rules, and the promise of the country.
He also mentioned in that fax the corruption of the court registrar and her failure to do her job while unlawfully protecting the respondent.
No one at the court even bothered to responded. Is that what our tax pays for? Do we pay tax so you can ignore us? Justin Ballot paid a R100 tax stamp attached to his application and the application was also ignored by Ms Stander. Thats called taxation without representation, or theft is the common word we use. That is a form of corruption and extortion. You promise direct access, take the money and then claim no one is ever allowed direct access actually and refuse to reply to any further correspondence when asked why the 'direct access' provision exists then!

I cant believe that today in 2010, a citizen has less access to a human rights court then feudal subjects had in medieval times to their Kings' court, or black people had to a apartheid court in South Africa! Ms Standers actions have obliterated human rights hundreds of years old that 12 revolutions had fought for. To be able to single-handedly determine a citizens rights based on her whims means we have gone back to those dark ages.


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[Medicine Man]

Keep it up Justin. I hope you get somewhere eventually. There are plenty of examples in the news that show the government thinks they are above the law.

Would you be prepared to upload an electronic version of your application so we can all see what your case is about?

[bigvalboski]

If we dont hang on to this, then we deserve to hang. basically we have exposed corruption in the Constitutional court, and thats why everyone must write to the media addresses above, and Zapiro too.

I'm not doing this for me, i'm doing this for you guys. I know my human rights, and i have the documentation to prove my case. its for everyone else to realise that if they want their rights, they have to stand up and claim them just like they did in Amsterdam, California and Canada. No government will ever give rights to you unless you actually say you have them. And that means putting pen to paper.

If you look on my web page you will see the basics of what is involved in the case. Its 7 parts, and contains all the 'definitive clinical studies, involving actual human test subjects, actual use of the cannabis plant, real life situations hands-on' dating back the 1836.

None of the facts were disputed by the government as it contains THEIR OWN facts and studies and therefore cannot be refuted. The case is solid and powerful, and the government cant answer. if this case get into the court, we will win, but thats why we all need to write to the media and show them its not just one man who is trying to get access to the court, its every citizen, because today I dont have access, and tomorrow, no one does and its tyranny all over again.
Or if you all complain and the media see's other people are interested, tomorrow we smoke in the streets again and we get our freedoms back.
Remember, government is only an idea.

[Strained]

bigvalboski
Hi
Appologies forward attitude
My name is nick, and i would like to get educated on what can be done to leagalise our plant. Reading your posts i can see that you have already done your own extensive research on how to move forward.

I would like to do my own research to get educated, i have a lot of free time on my hands at the moment, if i could assist you with any research and things you may need to find i would really love to. It will also help me to get more informed.

Hope to hear from you soon

Regards Nick

P.s any questions you may have of me feel free to ask.

[bigvalboski]

Well its very easy. The only thing that can change anything is the truth.

So you need to hound the media, asking them to produce the definitive clinical studies involving actual human test subjects, actual marijuana PLANT, actual use real life 'hands on' (not THC rat studies) that show any harm to justify the law. (there are none) Cannabis is 100% non toxic, 100% non addictive, benign health promoting herb.
After 1976, the DEA and CIA made the UN ban all empirical studies.
So the ANC government are liars. They have based the law on nothing. No cannabis studies have been done here. You need to write to the government telling them you know they are liars and its a violation of international law. The contract is human rights law, not their illegal laws. Write to the constitution court saying you know they cheated, and you know its a CON.


Puff in the park, which was started and is run weekly by Mr M. Yass of Durban. Every smoker in Durban is coming to the puff in the park at Bulwer park, 2pm Sundays. Everyone is smoking and having a PEACEFUL good time, while those psychopaths called the SAPS Serve And Protect Syndicates and salivate at the mouth hoping to receive the order from above to DEADLY FORCE us all.
In 1984, during APARTHEID, the police used to shoot the citizens from yellow police cars. Today, so much has changed in the Peoples Republic of (Chinese owned) South Africa , and now the police shoot the citizens from white police cars.

Prohibition has not solved anything. Interpol and the CIA are OPENLY running the drugs through the UN. The 'War on Drugs' is more like an advertising campaign to promote them. The CIA is the mafia. The whole thing is a joke. US is protecting the poppy fields. Their boys deal the drugs 'undercover', and that way, can never be bust. any new 'supply' of drugs is quickly identified and the people arrested and framed in the media as kingpins, meanwhile the real kingpins deal with impunity.

The more people realise that this is all a lie, that you are living in Plato's cave. EVERY word the government is a lie, and the 'good shepherds' only have 2 intentions. First to fleece you your whole life with tax (AKA slavery), and then to harvest you at the end, all the while making you believe the animation you have is a life.
Its a script most people live. Wake up at 6am, dress like this, stuck in traffic at 7:45am from 2 years old till i die, 8am at my desk.
Then you need to be a composite of political correctness and last nights news and sports. Dont want to upset anyone. Is everyone a baby now?
Phone rings ... Thank you for calling telkom, Justin speaking, how may i help you?

That a corporatised life, a script, an animation ruled by fear and money. Got to be a good citizen hey. GOOD means never questioning the government or speaking about topics that have not been authorised by the media. Not allowed to speak about cannabis at work. its not authorised.

If you smoke or sell, or grow, or posses cannabis and dont speak about it, then the government has already beaten you before the game even starts. It will never be legal for you, as you have chosen it that way. Thats called psychological warfare.

As Albert Pike said (Freemason big cheese), "A nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent."
Perception management is what they use on you to make you feel powerless. The BIG BAD GOVERNMENT is too strong and tough. no one can beat them. In reality, they are so busy stealing as much money as they can they dont care about you. As long as you sit down, shut up and do as you are told, oh and pay Eskom, China and Al Gore (the Allegory) all your money.

Everyone is willing to fight for someone elses cause except their own. Mao said he was not afraid of bombs or armies. He was afraid of an individual with an idea. This idea called cannabis needs to be pushed to the front by YOU. Everyone has good ideas. Dont just tell me about them, do them yourself.
M Yass started Puff in the Park.
Others have made up small flyers to start their own events is the spirit of M Yass in Durban. Shout it from the roof tops, hang signs off bridges over rush hour traffic to inform the (wage) slaves below driving to work in a trance.
THE GRASS IS GREENER ON THIS SIDE. Smoke dont Slave. Take the day off.
Send all your bud and smoking pics to the newspaper telling them your buds are sooooo good, they should make front page news. Extra Extra, read all about it. (and then lambaste them if they refuse to print it).
Write to 3rd degree telling DP you just smoked the best DP, and then give her the 3rd degree, because apparently, she hogs the joint.
Ask why the police only catch soft crime and cannabis smokers, while mall robbers and corruption are constantly left alone? Could it be that nothing has changed? still a slave class and criminal class.
2010 is here, June is almost here. lets make sure all 7 billion people on earth see SA as being useless in soccer, but the best in dagga. We wont win the cup, but at least we can win some laughs. Now if we can just carbon tax the bombs for war, and arrest the entire worlds governments, we could all live in peace and haze.

[Medicine Man]

If you really want to get worked up watch Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum here: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

It will show you how everything governments do is anti-citizen and designed to take away your freedom. The War On Drugs and The War On Terror are both a war on the citizens in order to remove freedom and enslave you.

[bigvalboski]

And thats the ultimate reason marijuana is illegal. The whole idea for a ruling elite it to enslave your mind. Everyone must think the same, all come to the same logical (read: given) conclusions. Marijuana allows you to think and see things differently. you are not a scared borg-speaking, TE-LEVI-SION programmed clone like everyone else seeking Sucker-You're-Ity (not sure if that's how you spell security), you are a noble empowered individual human and demand to be treated as such. You question the system, you question the motives, you wake people up. Cannabis is a true King, and a true King walks amongst his peoples and they become noble too, altered, and rise up and represent the truth. Joan of Arc 'burned incense to other god's'. What do you think they are talking about in history?

It is your HUMAN RIGHT to cultivate, trade, use and possess cannabis for personal reasons. Guard your mind and dont allow them to take away your rights and enslave your mind. be an individual. be yourself. The government has no justifiable or reasonable reason to remove your freedoms.